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The Toilet Paper: Enough of This Sh*t

Lourd de Veyra | Published: Jan 18, 2011 - 9:00am



The public toilet—along with sidewalks, other public spaces and certain soap operas—is a metaphor for the state of a society. (Then again, I’m always saying that some thing or other is a metaphor for something). Show me a filthy public restroom and I’ll show you a society where discipline and order have broken down.

The toilet is a reflection of the hygienic state of a household or an establishment. Especially for restaurants. A chef once said, “If this is how they treat their restroom, I’d hate to imagine what happens in the kitchen.” Agreed, but I’d definitely make special exceptions for certain panciterias and tapsilogans where proximity to filth seems to be the secret ingredient. But for the most part, I’d think twice about returning to a resto where the bathroom is a scene straight out of CSI.

The only problem is that our society has come to the point that there’s just too many of them. Those of us who have been sufficiently exposed to public restrooms know what I’m talking about: the non-existent flush, the mud, the moss, the tiles that look like high-school biology experiments, the floating brown objects and the unspeakable mixture of bodily fluids encrusting the lavatory rims.

Listen: I’m no delicate doily. The sight of scattered fecal constellations on a bathroom mirror will not make me scream (Not that I’ve tried, really). I’ve taken a dump on the some of the worst toilets in the planet (including some that are not technically toilets; but those were desperate times). Generations of humans have also lived and died without the kind of absurdly ultra-modernist washroom pleasures offered by the Japanese burger chain Sango. It’s not even a matter of toilets being in the Western or non-Western-style. A number of Asian countries have become formidable economies while still lovingly crapping into a simple hole in the floor.

My point is, I’ve been living in this country for 36 years and don’t you think it’s about time we said to ourselves: enough of this shit. And f--k the pun.

Of course, in some parts of the planet, there is  a correlation between discipline, sanitation, and progress. George Orwell once asked, “Do the lower classes smell?” Does “poor” instantly translate into “squalid?” Of course, I have yet to see Forbes Park residents defecating into plastic bags that are conveniently hurled into rivers. But of course, efficient sewer systems cost money and it is much easier and cheaper to treat Manila Bay as your own personal latrine pit. Let us be, reminded, however, that dignity starts with proper disposal of our bodily excretions.

I mean, really, unless you’re on 500 micrograms of LSD, how hard is it to shoot your crap or piss into the bowl? Is it so hard to shoot that damn wad of tissue into the trash bin? How difficult is it to fix a faucet, clean mirrors, and scrub tiles? Do you really need a Swiss bank account to afford a bottle of bleach or disinfectant? Just how expensive is a bottle of Zonrox? It is absurd to demand that all restrooms be equipped with a Toto automatic urinal and a goddamned bidet, but the least you can hope for is some semblance of civilization. That you can unzip without fear of being attacked by a squadron of cockroaches.

The phrase “public restroom” is an invitation to genuine horror. The first thing that comes to mind are those in bus stations. I have no idea what it is about transport terminals and the overwhelming fog of ammonia? But it’s exactly the “public” part where it becomes problematic.

Thank God for graffiti in restrooms. At least they provide a humorous, if absurd distraction from the squalor. “LOOKING 4 GUD TYM 0921-4457876… JHUN” takes your mind off the nasty stuff floating right under the dark planet Uranus. Who could Jhun be and what sort of good time does he have to offer? What is it about such places that inspire artwork based on phallic iconography? Or instant installation pieces involving strands of pubic hair held in place by dried wads of gum? See? I’ve just distracted myself from the point just thinking about one goddamned wall I’ve seen recently. Thank God for these unacknowledged poets and artists.

I’ve always believed that human beings are divided into two kinds: those with the ability to crap anywhere and those with rectums of habit (a.k.a namamahay). And it’s not just because they’re afraid of using toilets that are smeared with shades of bright caramel. Even if it’s a sparkling cubicle at the Edsa Shangri-La, they still can’t unload.

The vilest toilet I’ve ever seen in my life was not in Manila but at a hospital in Sagada. Made of iron, it was all covered in rust—I sincerely hope to God it was rust—and looked like it had been crapped on by William Henry Scott and, I’m sure, all the other foreign missionaries of the pre-war era.  The worst part is this: I had to use it. Listen, I had no other choice. I had not moved my bowels for four or five days (I had joined a medical mission to Kalinga and found it impossible to uhm, unload on the edge of a rice field while warding off wild boars impatient to deal with your droppings). All the other toilets were occupied and I couldn’t hold it any longer. My head and all other parts of my body were about to burst. So I held my breath, set aside my dignity, sat down and did my business. The texture, the coldness, and the smell of that toilet still haunt me to this day. Anything after that is a Toto Neorest 600.

In the sidewalks of Manila, this is usually an encouraging signage.

P2—IHI  (Sometimes P3 in certain areas of inordinate human traffic
P5—DUMI (Or the vulgarly optional “TAE.”)
P15—LIGO

 
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  • casby 5 months ago Report Abuse
    nung nasa sagada ka mr. de veyra pde mo naman di upuan yun eh........pde mo nmn i apak ung 2 paa mo sa bowl.. hehe... lol !!
  • ako 10 months ago Report Abuse
    depensa sa mga mahihirap na di makapaglinis ng banyo nila:rnminsan kasi di na nila afford ang bumili ng zonrox o tubig o kahit walis na para panlinis ng banyo... mas uunahin nila ang pagkain kaysa sa mga gantong bagay.
  • miguel May 16 2011 @ 08:36pm Report Abuse
    well written lourd, hit the spot with humor. 10 over 10
  • surg702 May 06 2011 @ 08:28am Report Abuse
    @ Lourd de VeyrarnrnSet aside the funny and laughable descriptions in your article, but seriously, I think, if songwriters and OPM artists are observant enough, your article offers plenty of material to cover that these guys could write about and be able to produce either a Hip Hop or a Pop number. Say for example your description of " that you can or can't unzip without being attacked by a squadron of cockroaches is a perfect Hip Hop material. And BTW, aren't american pop music writers inspired by the daily events going on around them ? rnrnI think the key to improving what they call the OPM isrnthe use of contemporary words, slang or street language whether in english, tagalog or taglish.rnrn rn ,
  • surg702 May 06 2011 @ 05:48am Report Abuse
    @ Lourd de VeyrarnrnWho are you ? Great article my man. Very contemporary usage of the english language having the essence and appearance of a well travelled western writer. I wonder if you speak the same way you write ? I salute the institution that produced an exceptional writer in you. rnrnYour article invites not only an interesting forum for a round table public and private discussions because it is a serious issue that needs to be addressed by government and private sectors. Las Vegas prides itself of their 5 star casinos and restaurants status for a good reason. Every casino and restaurant employee is given a TB, Hepatitis, HIV and other transmittable diseases check-up. Their restrooms are tidied every 30 minutes and if the assigned employee missed his chores, he's gone. Las Vegas survives on tourism and gambling and cannot do any less than a 5 star standard. I believe the Philipines must do the same.
  • pardonmygrammar May 05 2011 @ 11:22pm Report Abuse
    "That you can unzip without fear of being attacked by a squadron of cockroaches." - nice onern rnAlways amazed by the author's insights.
  • ayos d2 Feb 07 2011 @ 11:48am Report Abuse
    hay naku. kailangan lng ng tubig at tabo sa banyo, ok na. d naman usually pinoy gumagamit ng toilet paper.rnsaka mga grammar error na yan, galingan nyo na lng next tym, wag mag comment regarding grammar error pag d mo sure na tama yong grammar ng ecomment mo para tapos na usapan. rnbasta ako, natuwa ako sa article na to. period. weheheheh.
  • phillip ino Jan 31 2011 @ 12:05pm Report Abuse
    bakit pag mali ang ingles, di katanggap-tanggap-nakakahiya-pangit-jologs-baduy, pero pag b*l*l sa kahit anong salitang pilipino "cool"?rnrn
  • chinee Jan 28 2011 @ 10:17am Report Abuse
    Can we just enjoy this article and not look for errors while were at it? I love reading blogs but when it comes down to reading comments there's always this one person that had to correct somebody elses grammar or even the author's maybe some of them are frustrated writers or just jerks that they just have to correct somebody so they can feel superior... Let me tell u this "nothing you say can change whatever is already published and come to think of it lourd is the one who have blog on this website and not YOU...st*p*d ass... You should submit your own blog with your perfect grammar and see where would it take you.... Just sayin... Btw, Good Job Lourd if this a song you hit all the right notes...
  • chezko Jan 28 2011 @ 03:34am Report Abuse
    Kudos to Lourd. I enjoyed reading it. It is going to be a classic piece. Again, Bravo Zulu to you, Lourd. rnrnand to all the grammar police: please....STOP!rnrn..the only thing I think was wrong in this piece was Jhun's number. I tried calling that number for some filthy toilet fun, but to no avail. :). I wonder if @olan had better luck. ;)rn
  • mp Jan 27 2011 @ 03:38am Report Abuse
    Oh Lourd, you forgot the worst toilets of all: the ones at the NAIA 1 terminal! They smell and the floors are always wet. Why worst? Because we effing pay P500 for terminal fee so we have every right to expect a clean place to pee or poop before we board the plane, don't we?
  • butetel Jan 26 2011 @ 07:07pm Report Abuse
    haha.. fun article =)
  • olan Jan 25 2011 @ 10:32pm Report Abuse
    thanks for jhun's number lourd.. ;D
  • dagang bukid Jan 25 2011 @ 08:25pm Report Abuse
    Mas ok pa kung sinulat sa wikang Filipino. Yung mga maruruming CR ay para lang album ng Radioactive Sago Project at bunganga ni Lourd!
  • baboy Jan 25 2011 @ 08:16pm Report Abuse
    Mas ok pa kung sinulat sa wikang Filipino.
  • word vomit Jan 24 2011 @ 03:13pm Report Abuse
    this topic is so nakakasuka but more so were the grammar experts, mas nakakasuka, yay!
  • jakarta swing Jan 24 2011 @ 02:42pm Report Abuse
    masyado lang macomment ang mga tao...hey everybody "nobody's perfect"... kahit wrong grammar or anumang kaletsehan, ang importante naiintindihan ng mga bumabasa.. punta ka indonesia, russia, bangladesh, india, malaysia etc... talk tarzan many many understand.
  • tulume Jan 23 2011 @ 05:22pm Report Abuse
    Mga kababayan, maayos na reminder itong ginawa ni Lourd.rnOkay, while ang pag-ETSAS, eh the pause that refreshes, do your part as a homo sapiens na linisin ng maayos ang pag dispatsa ng etsas mo.Hindi naman tayo mga hayup na basta na lang umaalis pakatapos dumumi.Mga TAO tayo OK?
  • lolame Jan 23 2011 @ 02:28pm Report Abuse
    SO, any suggestions how to start sanitation in depressed areas? this is where it all starts, you see, these class of citizenry has no idea what hygiene is and they never ougrow this filthy habit.
  • cecil Jan 21 2011 @ 06:40pm Report Abuse
    Another classic, Lourd! Nice article....error in grammar cannot diminish its being nice. Mabuhay ka!
  • edward Jan 21 2011 @ 12:11am Report Abuse
    I want to try reading this whilst eating. bwahahaha
  • epay Jan 20 2011 @ 10:11pm Report Abuse
    Alam mo feel ko 'yang kababuyan sa restroom at saka pagiging "explosive" ika nga, wala na 'yan sa lahi o sa lugar. 'Pag talagang hindi mo na mapigilan sarili mo hindi mo na iintindihin lahat, basta malabas mo lang sama ng loob mo. Hahaha feel ko ganun 'yun. Afterthought nalang ang pagiging malinis lalo na 'pag feel mo sasabog ka na.
  • lee Jan 20 2011 @ 07:14pm Report Abuse
    nice article. interesting comments. rnThe best toilet I bombed was at the Atlantis Dubai. I also left my DNA on a beach in a marine sanctuary. rnrnOn a beach in a marine sanctuary. Grammar police is this correct?
  • junjun Jan 20 2011 @ 04:37pm Report Abuse
    great and topic! we should have a poll on who is the "shit anywhere type" or "the namamahay type" rnhahaha!rn
  • gossipmonger Jan 20 2011 @ 03:41pm Report Abuse
    hey, lourd, check the comments. another possible topic for your next blog entry. haha!
  • from singapore Jan 20 2011 @ 03:41pm Report Abuse
    i am currently living in Singapore. the hygiene of people here are not any better. i'm trying so hard not to be a racist. you'd be surprised, too. of course your usual suspects would be the uhm (sorry!) indians, but even malays and chinese (oh dear God, they smell!) smell. rnrnthe toilets at work are hell! to think that i am working for a multinational company. in my one year of stay here, i have never once gone in the wash room without seeing remnants of someone's bowel movement or menstrual period in the toilet bowl, on the toilet seat, and the soiled tissue hanging from the trash bin.rnrnmind you, there's a big poster on the door of the stall that will remind you to flush properly once you've done your deed. you get to read it while you are actually doing it! how can you not follow the damn sign!
  • meow_meow Jan 20 2011 @ 03:40pm Report Abuse
    disregarding the grammatical errors, this article is still brilliant. nice work! rn(buti na lang medyo occupied ang imahinasyon ko, kundi malamang sumuka na ko sa pinagsasasabi ni lourd dito.)
  • satan Jan 20 2011 @ 03:00pm Report Abuse
    walang mikrobyo sa palikuran ko. sterilized!rnnice article!
  • placidoparaluman Jan 20 2011 @ 11:11am Report Abuse
    I'm a copywriter and a novice blogger yet I still need to polish my proofreading and writing skills. But I strongly maintained that the content of the article is the uttermost important, being ahead of the errata such as grammatical errors and others. rnrnI've been a watchdog of Lourd's articles ever since. And I think, it doesn't matter to me if there is a flaw/flaws within the article. I mean, as long as it really enlightens my mind and touches my soul. Long Live Lourd! :)
  • angelbyday Jan 20 2011 @ 07:39am Report Abuse
    Lourd, try mo public restroom sa pgh :)
  • s Jan 19 2011 @ 11:56pm Report Abuse
    Tama ka diyan. Minsan sa sobrang baho ng banyo, hindi ko maatim pumasok. Pinipigilan ko na lang ang ihi ko.
  • grammar Jan 19 2011 @ 10:57pm Report Abuse
    grabe mag comment yong iba dito.maraming ways ang grammar. grammar verbally saying it. grammar while reading it..grammar while writing it.ang icheck yong obvious errors or typos!ugok!
  • heller Jan 19 2011 @ 07:12pm Report Abuse
    Lourd, you forgot to mention about the restrooms in public schools...with matching ghost stories pa yun...hahahaha
  • ij Jan 19 2011 @ 06:19pm Report Abuse
    the public restrooms in Laoag City used to have couch/sofa set. so clean and you can even rest and sleep inside. that was 10 years ago. not sure if ganun pa rin. sana ganito sa manila
  • oguragumon Jan 19 2011 @ 05:59pm Report Abuse
    ako.....pangarap ko lang maiputan lahat ng 5 star hotel sa metro manila!
  • danielle Jan 19 2011 @ 05:01pm Report Abuse
    hush t**ssssssss. eyes on the board!!!
  • choco mucho deposit Jan 19 2011 @ 12:26pm Report Abuse
    I like the toilets at the Podium. I can take a poop there everyday.
  • tulume Jan 19 2011 @ 12:05pm Report Abuse
    I said SYAARRRAPP everybody! na di-distract ang serious topic ni Lourd dahil sa mga pulis -pulis na ito. Focus on the topic! naiintindihan ba? OK no problem! you have a problem with that? naiintindihan naman eh, so ano problema?rnrnANG PROBLEMA EH DISMAL ATTITUDE TOWARDS HYGIENE & SANITATION REGARDING PUBLIC TOILETS...
  • p. tasyo Jan 19 2011 @ 11:36am Report Abuse
    grammar, sentence construction and spelling matter.rnrnWalang s after matter.rnrnLOL!
  • juana Jan 19 2011 @ 11:07am Report Abuse
    Pilipino lang mahihilig sa spelling at grammar check. Hindi ko pinagtatanggol ang maling spelling at incorrect grammar pero ilugar naman nating lahat. Tingnan ninyo ang CNN blog, mali mali ang English lalo na ng mga Thais (noong may kaguluhan pa sila) at mga Koreans or Tunisians. Nagkakagulo ba sila sa spelling at grammar? Hindi. Pero ang pinag-uusapan nila ay ang topic. Sa kaka English nating lahat hindi naman tayo naka ahon sa kahirapan. Third World pa rin tayo. Magsitigil kayo lahat!
  • whatsthefrequency Jan 19 2011 @ 11:03am Report Abuse
    yan ang hirap sa ating mga pinoy e. we can't take criticism, kahit na constructive. hindi nyo rin naman blog to ah, bakit kayo naa-apektuhan kapag may corrections sa article? ano ba kayo, lawyers ni lourd? kung may dapat mag-reklamo, si lourd yun. kahit na kubeta ang topic o kung anong maliit na bagay, basta sinulat sa papel o nilathala sa webpage, grammar, sentence construction and spelling matters. ang hirap sa inyo, you're making the topic as an excuse for ignorance. sige pagsulatin nyo ang anak ninyo ng essay o kahit anong English assignment. mali ang grammar! jejemon ang spelling! at kayo na passive readers ang may kasalanan.
  • juana Jan 19 2011 @ 10:52am Report Abuse
    Magsitigil na kayong mga grammar experts. Hanggang baliktaktakan lang kayo pag sa panulat pero pagdating sa mga international fora tiklop ang mga Pinoy. Karamihan sa mga Pinoy ay madudumi talaga. Huwag paniwalaan na malilinis ang mga Pinoy dahil 3 beses maligo sa isang araw. Yan ay kathang isip lamang. Puntahan ninyo ang bawat CR ng pampublikong lugar at pamamahay. Mamatay kayo sa masansang na amoy at kalat ng tubig. Eh kahit toilet paper nga at sabon wala sa mga public CR. Eh kasi nga hindi tinuruan ang mga pinoy na maghugas ng kamay pagkagamit ng CR. Umihi man kayo o dumumi o manalamin lang sa CR, kailangang hugasan ang inyong mga kamay. Ngayon lang yan nalalaman ng kakaunting Pinoy. Marami pang ibang di nakaka alam niyan. Mga salaula kayo!
  • jessie Jan 19 2011 @ 09:46am Report Abuse
    Lourd- you did it again. pero parang mas entertaining yata ang balitaktakan ng mga grammar experts dito kesa sa article mo ah... hehehe... rnon a serious note, i totally agree with your sentiments. a person's backyard - and their toilet - reflects their personality. sa totoo lang!
  • flip Jan 18 2011 @ 10:10pm Report Abuse
    kaya nga, bago i-require ang office to provide condoms, FIRST provide clean toilets with toilet papers!
  • edi kayo na ang lingguwista Jan 18 2011 @ 07:43pm Report Abuse
    para kubeta lang nagkakaganyan kayo.. rnyan ang tinatawag na walang proper decorum.rnputek. pede naman sa ibang venue kayo magsagutan o magtirahan sa grammar eh,.rnwag dito... pambasag kayo ng trip!rnkung may readers na nagpopoint out ng grammatical errors at typo ng article ng idol nyo, wag maging defensive... letse. para yan lang eh.. constructive naman ung move na un eh...rnso enough of this sh*t!
  • edi kayo na ang lingguwista Jan 18 2011 @ 07:41pm Report Abuse
    para kubeta lang nagkakaganyan kayo.. rnyan ang tinatawag na walang proper decorum.rnputek. pede naman sa ibang venue kayo magsagutan o magtirahan sa grammar eh,.rnwag dito... pambasag kayo ng trip!rnkung may readers na nagpopoint out ng grammatical errors at typo ng article ng idol nyo, wag maging defensive... letse. para yan lang eh.. constructive naman ung move na un eh...rnso enough of this shit!
  • tsong Jan 18 2011 @ 07:27pm Report Abuse
    tutal may public restroom na (marumi man), pwede bang pakibura na ang mga nakapaskel na katulad nito sa mga pader natin dito sa maynila? may mga banyaga na curious malaman kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng mga yan. nakakapikon lang kaseng i-translate.rnrnbawal umihi dito/ bawal tuma3 dito/ sige! subukan mong umihe dito, putol tt mo! supot lang ang iihi dito, etc etc, rnrn
  • pinaygeek Jan 18 2011 @ 07:24pm Report Abuse
    Have pooped and peed in some 1st world countries - and I can definitely say there's no correlation between people and their toilets.. Some of the most horrible restrooms I've experienced are in London - within the CBD area, in China, and in a highend mall in Singapore. Worse than any gaybar or bus stopover toilet here. I've held my bladder more traveling outside the country, than backpacking in provinces here. When I went to Palawan with a group of European tourists, iniwasan ko talagang sumunod after them sa cubicle. Mas malinis pa ang Pinoys, marunong magflush. At nagsosorry if wala nang tubig at Di naflush.
  • cris Jan 18 2011 @ 06:54pm Report Abuse
    ang daming magagaling mag english dito. may buhay ba kayo? wala naman kayo ginagawa kundi magcomment lang ng magcomment. maggawa kaya kayo ng sarili nyong blog. para may gawin kayo.
  • marian xandre Jan 18 2011 @ 06:01pm Report Abuse
    andaming grammarians dito sa comment section a!rnrn#@*!namo, andaming nagugutom sa mundo, grammarian ka pa rin? rnrnjoke lang! peace!
  • marian xandre Jan 18 2011 @ 06:01pm Report Abuse
    andaming grammarians dito sa comment section a!rnrn#@*!namo, andaming nagugutom sa mundo, grammarian ka pa rin? rnrnjoke lang! peace!
  • matsukatse Jan 18 2011 @ 05:50pm Report Abuse
    Dissing a Palangca awardee on his grammar. Hehehe. Nice. Nice.
  • tsong Jan 18 2011 @ 05:48pm Report Abuse
    o ayan! naknangpanutsa, naglabasan na naman ang mga grammar expert dito. mahabang palitan na naman ng laway to. pakiusap lang sa inyong mga amuyong na grammar expert, punta kayo sa mga website ng mga 'kano at magbasa ng mga kumento sa mga artikulo dun, siguradong magpipyesta kayo sa dami ng iku-correct nyong mali-maling inglis at ispeling dun, native inglis speaking na yang mga yan pero sangkatutak mga grammar error. wag magpasikat dahil mababaho at mga karumaldumal na kubeta lang naman ang usapan dito. tapos!
  • dream Jan 18 2011 @ 05:30pm Report Abuse
    The article is a great rebound from the previous one. Safe to say that, this has definitely raised a really good point and very entertaining. How I wish, people in this country or the government would take this kind of issue seriously. rnrnAs always, good read! rnrnLooking forward, for your other insanely entertaining piece. :) rn
  • d c Jan 18 2011 @ 05:09pm Report Abuse
    Ang aarte nyo! Kubeta lang naman yung pinag-uusapan.
  • philip Jan 18 2011 @ 05:07pm Report Abuse
    "Recently, linguists (which now means ‘people who study languagernprofessionally’ and not those with the gift of tongues) have liberalized the rulesrnof correctness in language. Many rigid rules were laid down in the 19th centuryrnby dry grammarians. Such rules have never been water-tight, and as languagernhas changed, many rules have now dissolved. For instance, our research showsrnthat ‘data is’ is now acceptable instead of the traditional ‘datum is’, or ‘data are’.rnSimilarly the subjunctive, which many users of the language were never surernabout, has almost vanished. It is now acceptable to regularly split infinitives.rnPrepositions can now acceptably come at the end of a phrase. The time-honouredrndistinction between ‘will’ and ‘shall’ has gone the same way as many otherrnfiercely defended rules of ‘correct’ usage.7 At one time, ‘bad’ grammar wasrnreceived with horror. Now linguists have replaced the idea of ‘bad’ with ideas ofrn‘acceptable’ and ‘unacceptable’ usage. How language is used, not grammaticalrntheory, decides what is right or wrong.rn- Turk, et. al (1989), Effective Writingrn- Turk, C.C.R. (1980), Attitudes to English Usage
  • reader lang din na pwede ring magbigay ng opinyon Jan 18 2011 @ 03:02pm Report Abuse
    yay! buti na lang sinulat mo 'to lourd. pasok sa banga. this is the start of better restrooms/bathrooms/comfort rooms in the PH. uumpisahan ko sa bahay namin. LOL! i swear... mas maayos lang banyo namin pag may bisita. :Prnrnayokong makisawsaw pero...rn@dave - may punto ka. tama lang naman na ma-edit nang mabuti yung article bago ma-publish. pero hindi yata strict dito kasi marami na akong nabasang mali ang grammar, sentence structure, spelling, etc. sa ibang na-publish na dito.
  • kk Jan 18 2011 @ 02:58pm Report Abuse
    @tulumernrnwell lets just say there are consequences. rn"serves them right" sounds like you're happy that they had it. rnrnbut i am not trying to be all saint like, even if it sounds bad, a part of me would also say the same.rnrnthe madadamay part. rnrnthat is sad. rnsadly it is out of our hands. rnrnwe can try to be clean, but if others refuse to,rnwell we can't do anything to them. rnrnunless of course there'd be a law against that. rnoh wait maybe there is already. rnrnwhat happened to that said "law" however..rnrnis another story, i guess.
  • tulume Jan 18 2011 @ 02:49pm Report Abuse
    So it serves them right if a cholera or dysentery epidemic breaks out, right? an kaso madadamay din tayo....
  • kk Jan 18 2011 @ 02:45pm Report Abuse
    @tulumernrnI am not saying they are right. rnrnand yes, people use this rnrn"kasi mahirap lang kami eh."rnexcuse all the time. rnrnbut surely, you have noticed that peoplernmay have realized things are wrong before,rnbut after changing few things rnthey go back to how they were. rnrnmay i point out i am not siding with those people who refuse to be clean. rnrnI just feel that it is almost impossible to change them permanently.
  • tulume Jan 18 2011 @ 02:37pm Report Abuse
    @kk,rnrnWhat are you implying? it's the nature of people to be Baboy? pag mahirap justified na ang kababuyan, kasi mahirap lang kami eh...pwede ba iyang rason?
  • kk Jan 18 2011 @ 02:29pm Report Abuse
    rnI wonder why my comment was deleted.. i did not use foul language. :(rnrnoh well. rnrnLourd, thank you for this. rnrni wonder, though if after this, significant change would happen ( not trying to be sarcastic. i swear).rnrnI just feel that its in the nature of people not to follow.
  • dave Jan 18 2011 @ 02:22pm Report Abuse
    Aggghhhh! I merely made a single point that I found it hard to read the article due to the errors I mentioned. It was others who made this drag on by having a go at me.rnIt is a great article (I have said this before) and would be even better if corrected. I wanted to point that out so that it could be corrected for future readers as it may not have been an error by the writer, but may have been an error in copy or editing. I am so sorry for trying to make the article better for other readers. I promise I will not do it again.rnSee what happens why you try to be selfless?
  • k Jan 18 2011 @ 02:17pm Report Abuse
    rnits sad that simple things always seem like a feat for some of us. rnrnThings such as, not crapping anywhere might have to be taught in schools someday because it can never be expected from some parents. rnrnactually the fact that they chose to have a family in a state where they can not even have decent toilets means it is VERY hard to expect anything from them.
  • tulume Jan 18 2011 @ 02:13pm Report Abuse
    Syyyarraaappp all of you! this is a serious dig of Lourd and you are distracting it with your grammar police BS?rnrnTama si Lourd 101%, kailan pa matututo ang Masa at middle Class ng wastong Hygiene & Sanitation? hindi naman kailangan maging burgis ka para maging malinis at hindi kasuka-suka di ba? rnrnSana maging mahigpit ang MMDA DOH, DPWH,LTO sa mga pagpatupad ng mga malinis na public kasilyas...
  • dan Jan 18 2011 @ 01:39pm Report Abuse
    Let me rephrase:rnrnEntertaining Post! From Joel Cruz to Ellen Lising to Taking Sh*t. What a leap. Not. Lol.rnrnThe Toilet Paper: Enough of this sh*t rn(Subtitle: Umeb*k Lamang Ayon Sa Ganda).
  • dan Jan 18 2011 @ 01:37pm Report Abuse
    Entertaining post! What a leap from Joel Cruz and Ellen Lising to Taking Shit. Not. Lol.rnrnToilet Paper. Enough of this Sh*t. (Subtitle: Umebak Lamang Ng Ayon Sa Ganda).
  • dave Jan 18 2011 @ 12:56pm Report Abuse
    That would be a sentence structure choice and not a grammatical error, if you want to get technical about English. Plus, you are naturally not taking into account colloquial differences between regions within the UK.rnI merely made a point about the article. As I said before, I do not write articles, but if I did, I would have them checked so that they did not contain the errors that I pointed out.rnCan we leave it at that instead of constantly trying to attack me? I am not a writer, unlike the article write. Heck!
  • wanakosey Jan 18 2011 @ 12:49pm Report Abuse
    o ayan ha na-settle na. itigil na ang kaguluhang ito. moving on......
  • strunk & white Jan 18 2011 @ 12:31pm Report Abuse
    "in credit to the bar" rnrn***to the bar's creditrnrn"Have we as a civilization not progressed beyond the point of p*ssing into a trough stood in a line next to other people?"rnrn***Have we as a civilization not progressed beyond the point of p*ssing into a trough standing in a line next to other people?"rnrn"Some toilets I went to in bars made me want to puke"?rnrn***Some toilets I've been to in bars have made me want to puke"rn
  • whysoserious Jan 18 2011 @ 12:27pm Report Abuse
    Haters keep on hating~~~~rn
  • dave Jan 18 2011 @ 12:23pm Report Abuse
    I agree with the removed comment, this is a great article, I just thought I would point out the errors as that is what stopped it being a blazingly amazing article. I believe I said this in my first comment. I had to read some sentences a few times because they simply did not make any sense at all.rnThe article is true and very well written with great humour. The only thing that holds it back is the errors that I pointed out.
  • urduja Jan 18 2011 @ 12:23pm Report Abuse
    @Dave and whatsthefrequency - I agree with the both of you and i think you both said that it IS a brilliant article. Perhaps the editor missed a few lines, it happens and it can be corrected.rnrnThe point of the article is that our public toilets are not up to par. I think we're the only country that allows public peeing by putting up those horrid urinals in the streets! That's not exactly curbing the bad habit, now is it? If we encourage men to pee on the streets (or more specifically, on walls and corners), how can we encourage people to be disciplined in using public toilets?rnrnWe should take it upon ourselves to make sure we do the right thing. Ang disiplina galing sa sarili at hindi puedeng ipilit.
  • mat Jan 18 2011 @ 12:19pm Report Abuse
    Internet argument between @dave and @manalamin muna. Step back people. This is serious business.
  • tsong Jan 18 2011 @ 11:58am Report Abuse
    o ayan, nauwi na naman sa grammar correction! Hahaba na to dahil magpapataasan na naman ng ihi ang mga amuyong na expert sa english grammar daw. hey, stick to the topic, we're talking sh*t here. rnrnlourd, ito bang article mong to ay may connection doon sa last topic mo tungkol sa mga pangit?
  • dave Jan 18 2011 @ 11:44am Report Abuse
    @manalamin munarnIt's not my article. You correct it if your English is so good.
  • whatsthefrequency Jan 18 2011 @ 11:44am Report Abuse
    @dave, welcome to the club. may i point out that a small flaw (be it grammar or spelling) does not in any way diminish the brilliance of this article. so chill people.
  • dave Jan 18 2011 @ 11:42am Report Abuse
    @manalamin munarnWhere is the incorrect grammar in my comment? I am using British English as that is my first language, tagalog being my fourth language. As far as British English is concerned, my comment contained correct grammar. So err, you go look in a mirror.rnLOL
  • manalamin muna Jan 18 2011 @ 11:39am Report Abuse
    sige nga, i-correct mo nga:)
  • dave Jan 18 2011 @ 11:37am Report Abuse
    @manalamin munarnI am English, but here I am a commenter, not an article writer. While I may have grammatical errors, I was writing the comment in a hurry. Had I been writing an article that would have been published, I would have ensured it was correct.rnLOL!
  • manalamin muna Jan 18 2011 @ 11:31am Report Abuse
    @dave, rnrnang yabang mo pero mas nahilo ako sa errors mo:rnrn"in credit to the bar"?rnrn"Have we as a civilization not progressed beyond the point of p*ssing into a trough stood in a line next to other people?" rnrn"Some toilets I went to in bars made me want to puke"?rnrnrnAyaw Barok ganyan Ingris rnrnLOLrn
  • baboy da pig Jan 18 2011 @ 11:18am Report Abuse
    Face it, we're a baboy people. Nakakahiya! We just don't care.
  • moms Jan 18 2011 @ 10:57am Report Abuse
    I agree with this, "do we really need money to get clean? Are we filthy because we’re poor? Or are we poor because we’re filthy? Does “rich” automatically mean “hygienic?” The answer is no." rnI went to HK recently and notice how some (Chinese) nationals spit on the floor with utter disregard to the flooring. I would understand (and even tolerate) if they are spitting on soil, as this will absorb it but no, they spit on marble, tiles and laminated flooring of malls. Worse is the stench of HK Disneyland's comfort room. I don't believe that the management of an international amusement park can neglect one basic and necessary amenities since I've visited other Disneylands as well. I guess it must be the people who used the comfort room. And by the way these guest are not poor, otherwise they won't be sashaying (while spitting) in the street of Disneyland.
  • dave Jan 18 2011 @ 10:23am Report Abuse
    Nice article, but my head hurts from reading all the grammatical errors such as "including some that are not technically not toilets" (double negative?) and "this is usually a encouraging signage" (should be "an" not "a").rnApart from that, I totally agree with your point of view. I am err, larger than normal and can not use public toilets as my err giblets touch the inside of the toilet. I either have to do a 1 then a 2 or hold it in.rnSome toilets I went to in bars made me want to puke. No toilet seat, broken and overflowing urinal, but in credit to the bar, they provided an alternative, a large trash can for you to p*ss in. Lovely. The light was broken, urine all over the floor and a toilet that wouldnt flush. Worse still, it was situated right next to the kitchen. Yuck.rnHave we as a civilization not progressed beyond the point of p*ssing into a trough stood in a line next to other people?
  • lariza Jan 18 2011 @ 10:20am Report Abuse
    muntik ko ng hindi tapusing basahin ito....NASUSUKA AKO!
  • marj Jan 18 2011 @ 10:14am Report Abuse
    For the life of me, I can't understand why clean toilets, whether in public areas (i.e. malls or offices or airports) or in private homes, will never be a top priority for most Filipinos. I agree that money is not an object. Is it cultural? Try to inspect the toilets of 10 of your friends or associates. I won't be surprised if you find that 7 of them are either smelly or with wet floors. Let there be no class war here. Slobbiness does not discriminate. BTW, the spread of the H1N1 virus is one of the best things that happened to the Philippines. Finally, MOST Filipinos learned to wash their hands after using the toilets. However, there is still much work to do in the hygiene department.
  • basterrda Jan 18 2011 @ 10:08am Report Abuse
    The public restroom in Five Star bus station in Cubao is decent enough to do your business. And I agree some hospitals have foul restrooms. In one public restroom, pee is on the floor, it was slippery and the stench in the cubicles is forewarning. Someone's poop is all over the place. In the walls, the rim, the floor. I'm not even kidding. You know the term, 'explosive diarrhea'? I was thinking, was the culprit, I don't know, dancing while taking a dump?! Traumatic experience. That's what some public restrooms are.
  • deadpandesal Jan 18 2011 @ 09:59am Report Abuse
    very well writtenrnpanalorn"gravity flushing" pala ha, haharn
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